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woot femshep!

Regarding design questions, what was your thought process about changes in the future, either new MARC field, or using a non-MARC cataloging data point?

It is so frustrating that every library who gets ebook records has to do the same authority work when the vendor could just do it once!

Normally it is because non-catalogers do the cataloging of ebooks thus no authority control. I know a vendor that does authority control for ebooks.

Some of our Ebooks are vendor-done and we have to note a lot of errors for them to fix next time and send them through an automated quality control process. But we are also trained to catalog EBooks in certain products and I feel like our cataloging is more thorough/accurate!

Great presentation, Ruth!

Great presentation Ruth!

This was so helpful, thank you!

Great session!

Very informative! Thank you

Thank you. Enjoyed your presentation.

Great presentation. BibFrame is coming and how will those records will be handled? IMHO, MARC will continue to be the base for catalogs.

Vendors have either no idea of what "authority control" is or they don't want to pay for it!!!

So you absolutely need a programmer to implement a discovery layer like blacklight? it's not usable without programming skills?

With the change to this new presentation, did you get feedback about display from your users or staff, asking for fields that you [deliberately] chose not to display (or index) that you did show/display in your Classic site?

Managing the data from different sources is very challenging. Even records that we pay for can be only bare bones. Here some of my colleagues have the perception that records come into the catalog with a push of a button. I was wonder how you address the value of this work.

Such a great presentation, Ruth! Thank you! I’m curious what kinds of conversations you’ve had with cataloging colleagues about this work, and what fields are used & how they are used. In my experience, some other catalogers I’ve worked with expected certain things to be able to be doable in our catalog that just… weren’t, and some things I asked them to do differently (or pay more attention to) weren’t things that they thought about.

thank you

Catalog data (records) span almost a century of practice. Changes in cataloging rules/guidelines, local practice, etc. all contribute to variations in data. And the variations are NOT wrong, just changes over time.It's even more fun when it's a serial title record and you have three different iterations of rules represented on the single record.

Great presentation! I was wondering if blacklight can pull from multiple metadata sources and/or multiple formats, for example could you pull records from an oai repository as well as a MARC catalog and if you've worked with that type of situation at all?

Great presentation! You have prompted me to do another review our discovery layer and underlying MARC data.

+1 Shana Also, people made the best decisions they could about the ways they used (or ignored) certain fields, etc. that made sense at the time. They couldn't anticipate all the ways that new systems could use fields that were impossible before.

I've always trained my catalogers to pay attention to the data in the fixed fields and to code it correctly, because we never know how it could be used someday.

At Stanford when an 856 is coded second indicator 2, but has an OAC url the link will be displayed in a Finding aid section connected with the at the library information, usually Special Collections.

Thanks! And I agree - it’s so valuable to have people who deal with discovery in cataloging & metadata units. (Also +1 to Shana and Linda)

was unable to download slides - link?

Off subject: But what trainings or recommendations do you recommend for beginning catalogers? I feel like I am over my head because I guess i need catalogers for dummies....

@Ronne -- not just you! I'm barely a year in and often feel like I need a translator!

here's a list of resources: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tPa7Lu0CcvId57SqextU8VM7XSlhc7JflN0a20RRoNg/edit?usp=sharing

I did ALA intro to cataloging but it wasn't helpful.

OhioNet has some great webinars on intro to cataloging.

Library Juice Academy is a great start

Thank you for the great resource Shana!

For special formats or other formats there are guides published by OLAC, https://cornerstone.lib.mnsu.edu/olac/

Slides link! https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1He25Y8hVbwHkOeJY2LltplisFB7Vhpdhoed_X-9412M/edit?usp=sharing

Library Juice is excellent

Midwest Collaborative for Library Services and Metro NYC have good online programs

OLAC and MOUG are great for a/v and music

https://www.amigos.org/

Have attended some great webinars with MCLS

+1 for MCLS

Yes +1 for MCLS!

Ya'll are great thank you!!

Excellent presentation...Thanks!

ask for help. Twitter hashtags: #AskACataloger or #AskALibrarianAlso the Troublesome Catalogers group on Facebook

and yes, DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT

Documentation is essential.

Documentation is my pet project and I love it

Agree! Our RDA style guides documentation are so helpful for learning cataloging!

Too True!

Oh yes. Why did past me make that decision?Another key way documentation is helpful

https://catalog.libraries.psu.edu/catalog/35577930/marc_view

OLAC has a new mentorship program too. Here's the link to sign up https://forms.gle/R18BsXwTBb2eeLeeA

+1 for documentation! I'm a strong advocate of creating documentation.

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(I mean it was NASA, but the library resources were super low)

Thank you for presenting today!

Thank you for this great presentation!

Terrific presentation!

Thank you so much!!!

Thank you!

Thanks for this wonderful presentation~!

Thanks!

Fantastic, thank you!

thank you!

Thanks all

wonderful presentation, thank you!