lol hi tara

lol is it just us?

cmon folks this is important stuff!

for now it is lol

I would expect at least the 6 people speaking

Are you speaking?

no

Me neither, I couldn't commit to the meeting until the last minute

Hello. Heather VanDyne, KS Chapter Councilor

Hi! Sara Westall, North Dakota Chapter Councilor

Dorcas Hand, TX Chapter Councilor

Hello. Joy Panigabutra-Roberts. Councilor-at-large. Knoxville, Tennessee

Lee LaFleur, Councilor at Large, TAG member, Boston, MA

Heyo from KCMO, Kaite Stover, Kansas City Public Library, C-a-L

Hi Everyone! Ana Elisa de Campos Salles (she/her), Executive Board and in the last few months of my term as Councilor-at-large.

Deb Sica, RRT Councilor

Hi All. Jacquelyn Bryant. ACRL Division Councilor.

Rochelle Hartman, Councilor at Large

Great roster!

Thank you for doing this for us

Google Doc that was referenced earlier: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1abnb1WUf5zh0b2BDHKFRoxb59a1pPIQ0cx2FYvNvFUc/edit#gid=0

Do people have time limits to speak? (Apologies if I missed this information)

Yes, people have up to 3 minutes to speak.

Thank you!

Thanks for the chart, Meg

this chart is really helpful! thanks meg!

Lori +100

Yes, Erika! +1000

Youth librarians will lose voice if policy making is moved to the Board level. Thank you, Erica, for speaking for us.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nbma2jF3H_X2Xq4wqEQMOZihEr1Gi1g0g_lCHohrguM/edit

I don't think that less people will mean less representation in the ways Nick mentions. As Lori notes it will make the group more nimble and able to respond. I don't assume that a smaller decision making group isn't going to look to committees/groups of experts to provide advice and recommendations. I do think it will mean they are more productive, engaged, meet more regularly and can more actively move ALA forward.

+1 Tina

+1 Tina

+Tina

If council approves a new governance model - it would need to be approved by the membership?

i believe it does

+1 Stephanie

Yes Stephanie!

Yes Stephanie.

Thank you Stephanie

+1 Stephanie!

+1 Stephanie. I am tired of the discussions that don't appear to move more quickly and could with a smaller body.

Thank you Lori, Nick and Stephanie!

Concise arguments Lori, Nick and Stephanie. Thank you.

Yes, Mike!

+1 Mike!

Right on Mike

+++ Mike

All Officers of ALA are elected by membership. Remaining EB are members of Council. We can change the make up of EB.

Yes twice

That sounds correct to me

We only have to vote twice to rescind the constitution I believe.

So we would only be voting on advisory vs governing body?

For now, at least

I think the votes depend on what documents we change

NO we are voting to change the ALA Connitution.

*number of votes

I liked "mess of democracy"

Thank you, Mario

+ Jennifer

+1000 Tara

Article XII. AmendmentsSection 1. All proposals for amending the Constitution shall originate in the Council. A proposed amendment shall become effective when it shall have been approved by a majority of the members of the Council present and voting at two consecutive meetings held not less than two months apart, followed by ratification by the members of the Association either by a vote by mail of a majority of the members of the Association voting, or by a majority vote of the members present and voting at a membership meeting of the Association. The Council, on approving a proposed amendment for the second time, shall specify whether a vote on ratification shall be taken at a membership meeting of the Association or by mail, and if a mail vote is ordered, the Council shall fix the time for the beginning and closing of the balloting. If a vote at a membership meeting is ordered, at least one month’s written notice shall be given to the Association of the text of the proposed amendment.

found the "two votes" section, Article XII of the ALA Bylaws.

They definitely could do it, but yes, Tara, with their own platforms/presidential initiatives, it creates an extra level of work for them to take on the role of policy making body.

Meg’s spreadsheet is super helpful. Thank you Meg.

thanks, Karen - so the members will have a voice in how we move forward

We govern the policies of a member-driven origination of ALA but ALSO the policies for all Libraries.

Art9cle XI addresses amending the bylaws.

Yes, Amy, could Meg or you send out the council record spreadsheet as an attachment to the list rather than as a GoogleDoc?

Yes, Mike, absolutely.

Love that, Patty!

Thank you, President Wong, as I feel the goals get lost at times during debate.

+Patty

This was a great session TAG team! Thank you!

this has been helpful 0- thank you

Thank you to the TAG team for your continued hard work!

Yes - thank you!

Thanks for watching for participants Lee

Thank you everyone who spoke today. It’s clear the thing we have in common is that we care deeply about the future of ALA.

Thank you everyone, for your continued focus to move us forward. Special thanks to our speakers today. Very helpful insights from each of you.

Can TAG post the recommendations that the Council Task Force Working group proposed.

+Amber

thank you for a productive discussion!!

Amy you've done FANTASTIC work here. Can't thank you enough!

+1 Kaite

We are here for the Members!

+1 Kaite

Thanks everyone!