Hi Rachel! Good to see you!

Hello! 😊

Hi, everyone - I'm a Core staff member. Just a quick note that our Code of Conduct can be found at http://www.ala.org/core/about/statement-of-conduct . Please contact me through private chat or at jlevine@ala.org if you experience or see any violations of the Code.

https://sites.google.com/view/cataloging-ethics/home

If you're not already a member of this interest group, you can join it at https://connect.ala.org/core/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=8360afab-32e0-4554-a28c-e5e373fa5574

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IBz7nXQPfr3U1P6Xiar9cLAkzoNX_P9fq7eHvzfSlZ0/edit#heading=h.vtdt667wn9cc

Resending the link to the Cataloguing Code of Ethics for anyone who came in late: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IBz7nXQPfr3U1P6Xiar9cLAkzoNX_P9fq7eHvzfSlZ0/edit#heading=h.vtdt667wn9cc

The six WGs are organized by functional cataloging area. Did you consider an organization by areas of ethical responsibility, e.g. a WG on financial ethics, a WG on inclusivity, etc.? Would the results be different? Thank you for your hard work!

Here's the first draft, which shows case studies: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DT1K2bEkbJN4-rLfC-cT20E4ThFkDsea_d4d1YTurf8/edit

How do people go about joining the working groups? Are they required to be ALA or equivalent members?

Are you considering using any of the case studies from the initial working group reports?

I'd be very interested in ethics of working two jobs, for different institutions with possibly conflicting interests. Many of us work two jobs nowadays!

Have you considered getting input from graduate students in Library Science on their perspectives on the code? How it could be improved. Job well done.

I like that too! Much better than the implication of working forever :)

We have an anonymous question that was submitted: "Re: proposed google form for collecting case studies. I like this idea, but could you please provide some guidelines for submitting case studies, so that submissions don't violate any privacy concerns or workplace related policies? Thank you!"

Have you thought about training librarians in the Code of Ethics and how they should think about the users of our services.

The previous code was an extension of the ALA code of ethics. Is this one envisioned as an extension as well?

What do you mean by "previous code," Kathleen?

I am addressing the training of practicing librarians.

Q: What do you ultimately hope to see as a result of implementing this Code, specifically, and how confident would you be in that assessment? thank you

Thanks so much for your insights on my question. As a recent MLIS graduate interested in becoming a cataloger, it is interesting to get insights from others in the field

This is what I am talk ing about?

http://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/alaethics

@violet:: oops didn't mean a '?'

how are you going to “educate” the upper management to accept the codes?

+ good question Stella

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Will this replace the 1994 supplement to the code (link above)

ok

The 1994 supplement is ALCTS-wide, not focused on cataloging specifically.

Thank you to those involved in this work. The reason for this document is clear to me, though I have been asked to prove or validate the need for the code is by other information professionals who work in other spaces, such as the corporate sphere. Thank goodness for all of the literature that has been written on this topic! Do you think including a literature review, alongside the case studies, would support the code's widespread adoption?

@Ian, there is a "Cataloging Ethics bibliography" available on the website of the steering committee: https://sites.google.com/view/cataloging-ethics/home

Violet - thanks for mentioning that. I try to keep it updated, but need to add more to it.

But there are basic ethics that should be followed regardless of your place of work.

Thank you, @Violet Fox.

+1 Judith

only talking is not enough time, may be some PR is needed.

ksnow@dom.edu

not only to the middle managers but the whole library world needs to know about the codes.

What kind of endorsement do you envision from IFLA -- endorsement by the Cataloguing [sic] Section? Professional Committee, soon to be reshaped as the Professional Council?

@Stella …agree that talking is not the only mode of influence …. I hope that these type of events and the actual creation of the statement can be used for PR. Also agree that more folks need to be aware of the codes … I encourage everyone to seek these out and hope that their supervisors are supportive of those efforts as a form of professional development.

Would these be shared with Cataloging Committees on various ALA Round Tables?

@Susan - once it is endorsed and adopted by ALA, etc.) it can go tot IFLA for endorsement. The relevant standing committees would provide input

IFLA’s 3 relevant SCs include Bibliography, Cataloguing, and Subject Analysis and Access

Agree with @Athena …. It will be stronger to get endorsement first from US/UK/Canada first and see what comes out that process. It will take some time …..

Grateful to the Steering Committee for their work on this document, I think it will be valuable, especially for new professionals. I'd encourage you to document all the various populations you had input from for posterity!

Can you talk about your goals for providing case studies?

Thank you to Athena and I understand that it will take a while!

But why, though? Can you clarify what benefit they'll provide?

I have a question not directly related to this presentation, but more generally. Should I ask offline?

Sarah - related to the cataloging ethics effort or CORE or ….?

Makes sense, thanks!

@Karen: how to get into cataloging as a public services librarian!

Re: PR/community engagement/leading from the front lines … I hope as many of us possible can help raise awareness about the Code! That would be a first small step indicating widespread interest from the field to our institutions.

Reminder that if you're not already a member of this interest group, you can join it at https://connect.ala.org/core/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=8360afab-32e0-4554-a28c-e5e373fa5574

Yes, my bad

I was using my title at work

+1 May!

Great, thanks! I'm on the right track then :)

Once things are open again!

All Core interest groups: https://connect.ala.org/core/communities/all-core-groups/core-interest-groups

Thanks!

Apologies, I thought it started in at 11am'

learn the basic first

Troublesome Catalogers Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/161813927168408

Love Troublesome Catalogers :)

Re: connection between cataloguing/technical services and public services …. Public services could be a potentially strong ally to making the case to our administrators re: importance of taking an ethical lens to resource description work.

thank you everyone for the conversation, cheers

TC&MMF :https://www.facebook.com/groups/161813927168408

thanks everyone!

Thank you, everyone!

thank you everybody for the good work!

A lot to think about, very informative.

GREAT JOB!!!!

Thanks everyone!

Are you sharing it with state/regional library associations?

Thank you!

Thank you very much

Thank you!

Thank you to all committee members and for all the work you do

thank you very much

great job

Thanks!

Thank you!!

I hope you exclude the phrase All standards are biased from the final codes

thanks for the presentation, and everyone for their thoughts about this issue

All standards ARE biased.

+1 Violet (you typed faster :-) )

Thanks to all who helped create the code. So happy to have it.

yes but you have to let the person makes his or her decision. and think about it

You can't dismiss bias, can you? You can just acknowledge it.

not dismis. but not all

Thanks for the presentation!

the first step is to recognize the bias (standards and personal) before you can move to solutions :)

that is already bias code

Thanks for the update!

Thank you, all!

Thanks everyone!