And you pronounced it right :)

Hi from Baltimore, MD!

Hi, from Bristol, RI.

Yes!

Hello from Iola, KS

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Please mute your mic.

Please mute, thank you

That was nice, thank you

Thank you. that was wonderful.

That was great, thank you, Rachel!

Yes! Love starting things off that way

I needed that

Nice and great idea!

Can the closed captions be enabled please? Thank you,

i have no mute showing so I hope I am lol

Will this be something we can come back to later?

Director at a public library.

Elementary School Librarian

Public library, teen services librarian

Washington state, branch librarian

Jail library manager

Assistant director at a public library

I was in aviation, now at a public library

cataloger at academic library

Public Library - Teen Services Manager

I'll give it a try.

Library associate at public library and circulation clerk at public

public library, adult services librarian

lgbtq community services librarian at public library

currently collection development manager at a public library

Digital reference librarian

Hi I am MLIS student in Denver University. I am currently living California

Director at a public library

I am a library assistant in Access Services in an academic library. My work is primarily done in the circulation and audio/visual departments.

Cataloging tech at a community college

Circulation Supervisor

HS Librarian

Library consortium HQ

High school librarian

Academic librarian

MLIS student in California

Academic librarian, Curator of Special Collections

Library Assistant with a MLIS degree

I’m graduating with my MLS in August

Clerk at public library and MLS graduate student

MLIS Graduate Actively seeking employment in Charlotte, NC

Branch Manager at a Public Library

Public Library Assistant, working on my MLIS

Library Tech II, Maximum Security Prison in Colorado.

I'm from Alabama! Yay!

I'm a librarian by training working in a (non-library) healthcare research role

Currently unemployed, but I graduated last month with my MSLS degree!

System level technology training coordinator for library staff

Congratulations, @Sarah!

Thanks Emily!

You're almost there @Jessica!

I’m working as a PT research assistant but looking for a FT LIS job

Work as a librarian, but have an accounting degree

Currently a MSLS student

@ayana thank you!! :)

Adjuncting currently, transitioning from full time admin job at a small university, now looking for full-time work in ideally a library

I do not have access to mute

Currently job searching, but was previously a high school librarian.

There should be a button to the bottom left of the zoom screen.

on my screen there is no normal zoom options, including mic/video.

I don’t know what’s going on but this is the first Zoom I have been in where the video and audio controls are greyed out/unavailable to me. So if I’m not muted, that’s why.

Huh, weird

I also don't have video or audio settings available to me

I am a pt adjunct librarian at a community college, and just started working pt as a Programming and Outreach Specialist for a subset of my State library.

i don't even see them as greyed out, they are just not there.

same here, I can't find the controls that I normally see.

I'm not seeing a mute option either - and am quite familiar with zoom interface.

same with me

Likewise… mine looks like the webinar version (no options other than chat, raise hand and Q&A

yep, same

Audio settings/Audio settings/Mute my microphone when joining a meeting

Same

on a PC, mute is on the bottom left

They are greyed out for me in the Meeting drop-down menu, which is where I went looking since they are not visible on the regular way.

Will this recording be available later?

I’m having the same issue. I normally automatically make sure I’m muted and my video isn’t active and I don’t have any options to either mute myself or control video.

I apologize for the lack of closed captioning. The transcript will be available with the recording following the session. The system asks us to assign someone. Again, I do apologize.

Same here, I'm in the webinar version

I was laid off from my full-time job and I am realizing I can look for work outside of libraries even though libraries = my heart

I'm in AZ working as a Cataloging Librarian. Recently I decided to move back home to the St. Louis MO area. I haven't seen many cataloging positions available and am trying to widen my search.

I see no options for video/audio also. I am a former academic librarian, now a librarian for a history and culture museum.

We can’t see the specifics if the person writing them only sent them to the panelists.

Moved to DC with my husband’s job. Want to work in cataloging

I'm going back to school to get a post-grad certificate with technology because there seem to be more options for those positions with library skills, but not in a library

I was working retail and I realized I did not want to do that for the next few years and I decided to get my library science degree.

I’m a government contractor at a academic military library. My contract ends in September. I am currently looking locally for job opportunities.

Southern California: I hit midlife with jobs in retail and sub teaching but not a career, I love researching and helping people, so I'm 3 units from getting my MLIS.

I am working on retail store. I am working on my MLIS in Denver University. During the pandemic, I volunteer at newberry library and start a garden community for local city and launching free little library.

I graduated during COVID with my MLS. I wanted to work with data and metadata but ended up taking a job at a branch since not a lot is open. Now that are things are opening up I want to go back into technology but I don't want to limit myself to just libraries.

I am so burned out; would like to replenish myself so I feel happy about helping people again.

I am passionate about helping others reach their goals and I want to work in an academic library setting.

That's SUPER Real Maya

Maya... pandemic fatigue? compassion fatigue? introvert's fatigue?

All of that, Amy. LOL

After 15 years in libraries I recently moved to a research role outside of libraries where I love using my skills and experience in a new ways developing products.

I'm very unsure about what I want. I've been in libraries for 6 years in a variety of settings, from public to consortium, and I'm not sure at all what I truly want. I'm very interested in being an independent consultant, but I don't know that the populations I would like to serve have the means to pay for me as a consultant.

Currently in a public library and long-range planning for what to do in “retirement” in 10 years.

Yeah, burn out was definitely a factor for me as well.

As time goes on and society changes, I feel like we will always need to learn new skills.

I do not how to translate working in a public library into other fields because they want experience in that particular field.

I have reached a point where if I wanted to have further prospects in libraries I would need to get my MLIS - I would like to research and consider other options outside the industry before I commit to that particular educational track.

I am getting burned out on my public library experience. I didn't go to grad school to release printing and deal with computer users all day

@Hannah Maybe you could connect with your State Library with proposals?

I want to be a music cataloger in a music library within an academic library setting. I love to catalog A/V materials…LPs, CDs and tape cassettes. I currently live in Lewiston Maine and work in an academic library as a library assistant in Access Services. I have been given wonderful opportunities to work with and do projects related to music cataloging and digitization, with the music and performing arts librarian and the technical services and systems associate head librarian.

I enjoy my job as a clerk but I felt like I could do more with my skills besides circulation. COVID also accelerated that feeling of being burnt-out helping people. I’m currently focusing on archives and special collections for my MLS degree; still like helping people but would like to do that in a different way.

@Perla would your library help fund your tuition?

Good idea, thank you

I know that music librarianship is such a specialized field, which may require a move, but given my current living situation, i.e. being a step mom to three boys and living with my boyfriend, I feel as though moving is not an option right now.

When trying to use your skills in a job outside the library, how do you handle the job qualifications with particular aspects you don't have experience with. Many jobs have a questionnaire that allows employers to weed out applicants if they don't have certain skills and years of experience in the position. Even if it's a skill that you can learn if given the chance, your application may not even be considered. How do you handle that?

I know the feeling, @Perla.

Getting my MLIS- but scared to spend so much money! Especially since there are not many FT public library positions- so how do I get into other fields with the degree?

I’m not sure; I would have to look into it. However, I did also apply for state financial aid.Overall my job search showed me that I would definitely need an MLS degree even if I have relevant experience. I started library school in the fall of 2020 and have one year left so I’ll be done soon!

You can often develop skills through professional organizations, beyond the experience that can be gained on the job.

@Rebecca T. I would suggest applying your experience as it is relevant. Be careful not to use too much library-specific jargon that doesn't translate well outside of libraries.

Working at the public library- I help people make copies most of the time,so I wonder how do get more involved in learning more advanced skills?

I like this dream deadline quote!

I have an MLIS, but my current job does not require it. I am gaining wonderful experience, but my ultimate goal is to work a position that requires my degree and satisfies my specific areas of interest, i.e. music cataloging and A/V digitization.

How do we choose a realistic deadline given the current economy?

I have a previous MA in a healthcare field, so LIS is a career change for me. I’m finding it a little bit of a challenge to leverage that experience and break into LIS roles.

Is the group mentioned (Move Online?) open to anyone? Could the link be shared?

Is anyone else very interested in Work From Home possibilities? Ever since COVID, it seems more possible for some industries, but not libraries so much.

I'm unemployed (and receiving unemployment) -- my timeline is "before I'm out of unemployment".

It's great to have your presenting, Rachael. This is reality.

Employers are assessing WFH policies. You can always negotiate.

I am interested in youth services. I have a plan for diverse books and outreach plan :) .. also interested in cataloging too

@Hannah - yes! I'm very interested in work from home possibilities. I'd love to at least have the flexibility offered by a partial WFH schedule

@Hannah, that depends on the library. I completed my internship remotely with an academic library.

I too have a MLIS and my current job only requires an AA degree. I am gaining valuable experience, but my learning opportunities are very limited and I'll exhaust my ability to grow very soon I think. I want a librarian position or a professional position that where I can utilize my skills and grow as a professorial.

Good question Rebecca T!

Same Rachael.

Who can anyone join "Move on Line", and is there a fee?

What is “Move Online”?

I'm also interested in working from home if possible.

https://www.move-online.co.uk/

Thank you for sharing the link!

I look forward to checking it out.

Cool! I'm excited to look at this.

Could everyone please mute!

Thanks!

It seems like the normal way to mute is not obvious. I looked for it and couldn't find it.

Ha ha

rach(a)els for the win

I think it's because a lot of us are somehow in here as "panelists" if you're not in as a panelist, you shouldn't have to mute yourself, it should be automatic.

I think it's because a lot of us are somehow in here as "panelists" if you're not in as a panelist, you shouldn't have to mute yourself, it should be automatic.

I personally like working individually primarily, but I also enjoy working in a team-based environment, where everyone works together to achieve a goal.

I found I could mute myself by tapping on my name in the participants list

Salary is the big sticking point for me! Public library jobs have such low salaries (at least the ones that are hiring right now)!

Please change your screen name if you're not the "real" Rachael Altman. That might help.

My interface has no participants list. :-)

I have no option to change anything, can't see a participant list, etc. *shrugs*

FYI - Zoom changed all participants' names to Rachael Altman.

While I can answer some of these questions, with many of them I feel like I truly don't know which I prefer or what I would like. Is this due to lack of experience in enough roles/environments? How can I narrow down what I enjoy or definitely don't like?

i have no ways to change anything or mute as well

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I'm pretty set in wanting to continue to be a cataloger. After 8 years of being a librarian in a public library, I got really burned out working the public side.

Hannah - maybe ask yourself what gives you energy and what saps your energy...

Needing to pay for childcare, "any salary" won't cut it anymore.

I'm 15 years into public facing and I'm feeling the burn too.

I’m interested in a career that allows me to use many of my skills, some that I have learned at my current work but others that I’ve developed separately (language, photoshop/photo editing, etc). Salary is also somewhat of a big factor since my current salary limits my housing situation.

I'd love to find a way to work behind the scenes.

So much of the chat is missing for me also. Such a strange experience…

If participants could all post to All panelists and attendees, all participants would be able to see all participants' posts.

Any suggestions for someone who is over 60 looking to relocate closer to grandkids who seems to be over qualified for many positions?

Great point, Amy! I enjoy helping people, but I am an introvert and working the public side makes me so prone to burnout.

I’m pretty flexible when it comes to working independently or in a team since I’ve done both.

I’ve been a supervisor/manager a long time. I’m so sick of managing people. Also, with kids I’d love to do something working from home. Idk if there is an option for that withy MLS.

Me too. :-) I love helping but man is it tiring after the long, long days.

I want to live in the south east, any librarian positions involving community outreach, digital and/or tech services. Top organization for me is ZSR Library at Wake Forest U, I met the director a few years ago to interview him and I like his answers about the organization. I can work with a team or independently.

People who have worked in libraries previously and are doing something else now, I'm interested to know what you're doing now.

Childcare is so expensive. I’m really scraping to get to the point where both my kids can be old enough for free after school care in our district. That would save us thousands

I feel the same about managing people

@Alisha With the pandemic and 2 little kids I moved from a hospital library director position to a remote research analyst position. I'm not technically a librarian, but I used my research background to support a content development team.

Hi David.

(Posting again since I realized my comment only sent to panelists) I’m interested in a career that allows me to use many of my skills, some that I have learned at my current work but others that I’ve developed separately (language, photoshop/photo editing, etc). Salary is also somewhat of a big factor since my current salary limits my housing situation. I’m pretty flexible when it comes to working independently or in a team since I’ve done both.

How does one who has library experience and an MLIS, get a job in a law firm?

law firms have law librarians

[reposting to panelists & attendees] @Alisha With the pandemic and 2 little kids I moved from a hospital library director position to a remote research analyst position. I'm not technically a librarian, but I used my research background to support a content development team.

@Emily, try looking for Paralegal jobs.

Thanks. I’ve looked into paralegal jobs, but it seems another set of schooling is required.

What does the job market look like for market research? With the growth of data science is the market research role shifting or changing?

I work retail store we do a lot of reference interviews with open ended questions. I feel like I am google sometimes

I've looked at knowledge management and instructional design

Last summer I got a taste of working from home and I LOVED it. I'd love to find a legitimate salaried remote job calling for this MLIS I have.

I would love to keep working in public libraries, but I need a higher salary now that I have a family and the lack of flexibility is challenging. I would also love to find a remote well-paid MLIS job or a well paid part time library job

@Amy Allen I have a role like you describe (and kids too). My title is research analyst, required a MLS, MS in bioinformatics, or MS in nursing.

Thanks Kristin! I'll look into that.

Emily, I've noticed that a lot of Law Librarian positions require a JD. Might as well become a lawyer :)

Haha so true! @Ayana

I know a librarian who is starting law school soon.

Improvising on the spot. :)

I think I would do well as research analyst, how would I even get started!? Seems a bit overwhelming

Ditto that question!

Interviews About non-Library Jobs: http://inalj.com/?cat=6946

Sorry… I missed it! @Rachel what is this site you just mentioned?

I am not a math person

Data scientist position for major corporations.

How important is actual speed in your job? I worked in interlibrary loan for almost 20 years and I was always told that I needed to check books in and shelve faster. I know I'm a good researcher, but I'd like to do said research and help people without needing to shelve and check in books.

Site is I Need A Library Job (INALJ): inalj.com

I just sent you a message thru LinkedIn. :)

Thank you, @Hannah!

Yes, thank you jfor for the INALJ link!

Thank you for the speed advice, that's very helpful!

Jennifer Harmonson has a good request in the Q&A.

I've found that LinkedIn makes really great job suggestions based on skills and experience.

Check LinkedIn, Indeed & GovernmentJobs sites as well.

The major sticking point for my in my job search is that I am changing careers completely. I am a physician and I completed my MLIS in December. However, I have never worked in a library. Most all library job descriptions have as a minimum requirement 1 or 2 or 3 years working in a library so my application never seems to make it through the first round of screening.

Kathleen, I’m in the same position. I haven’t even begun applying yet because of that issue.

Kathleen, check out the Medical Library Association https://www.mlanet.org/

Volunteering in a library can open doors

I have been trying to emphasize to my library associates quality over quantity. We want to be efficient but speed doesn’t mean fast if mistakes are made and rework is required

There are some public library systems with a social work department - which could really appreciate a librarian who was a physician in a former life.

Thank you Renee!

@Ayana. I have but nothing in California for the past 6 months. @ Jessica. They don’t even want me for the library tech position.

Job posts at https://www.mlanet.org/p/cm/ld/fid=1162

apply for a library assistant position

@Kathleen, I'm in the same position, but if you match at least 3 of any of the other requirements (my rule of thumb) apply anyway.

Have you looked at a medical, hospital or pharmaceutical library.

I found one mentor on Instagram. She guide to go MLIS school and now volunteer my local library

@Kathleen - I’ve had a similar experience. I was an audiologist now moving to information science. Health informatics and health science/medical librarianship were both recommended to me as career paths.

Better try & fail than not try at all.

In my public library experience, you often have to start at the bottom (even with an MLS) to get into the system. Which is not great, because the pay for the lowest jobs is really low. A LOT of my coworkers at the public library were overqualified!

Kathleen, definitely highlight your experience in the medical field, as this can be a selling point, even in public libraries. There's interest in health-related programming, outreach, etc., and that could be a big plus in lieu of library work.

@Sarah, that is such a helpful tip — thank you!

Sarah, I like your rule of thumb. :-)

Thank you Rachel. I have been using that strategy but will continue tweaking.

Any type of healthcare experience would be a huge asset in the medical libraries.

One of the librarian lol I had pass a robot test - screening and adding keywords :)

I'm saying this as a former hospital system library director.

I waiting for a respond for the library job :)

Kathleen, I actually volunteered in a medical library and that was my experience when applying to an academic library. They were happy with that experience even if they were officially asking for the 1-2 years in the description.

federal jobs listserv: FEDLIB@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV

Is there such an opportunity as doing a post-graduate internship? I did two internships in library school, and as I mentioned before, work as a library assistant. I want to stay in academic libraries, but feel I need more on-the-job experience. How can I get that?

Oh, interesting. You were a library director for a hospital system. Neat.

I second joining MLA or a local chapter as they may be able to give you targeted ideas or even connections with something like an internship. If nothing else, projects with them can count as experience

I love the reviews on Glassdoor--incredibly helpful

Feel free to join our job fair tomorrow. Check our website for participating employers and times. https://www.ala.org/educationcareers/employment/placement

I applied for over 100 library jobs between 2017 and 2016. I just took all of 2017 off.

Sorry, 2014-2016

did u get a job?

Thanks for sharing that link, @Beatrice!

what time is the job fair?

I have one job search tips site that I use a lot: https://www.thebalancecareers.com/

Does anyone use Indeed.com?

Job fair 10:00am - 3:00pm Central. But check the page because employers are available at specific times.

Yes, I use Indeed

Feel ready for change

But not only Indeed, I'm on a lot of listservs too

I feel like "my cup" is always empty, I need to fill it!

This site has a lot of articles to help you find a job and how to destress during the job hunt.

How difficult is it to transition from an academic library job to public library?

I am ready to feel passionate about my job

Me too

Haha! @Emily, I have wondered the opposite :)

Emily, I made the transition about a year ago and it was not difficult for me at all, I expected more push back. I focused on user services and how instruction was similar to programming.

https://rachael-altman.mailchimpsites.com/

I've moved from academic to public to hospital library. Each move picked up the pace of work and change.

This morning in Ask HR session, employer at pub lib said she looks for the skills. She doesn't care what type of lib you have worked in.

I recommend "repurpose your career" for older job changers great podcast!

It’s a different cycle of similar tasks. Public is busy in the summer compared to my academic library experience

Great info, @Hannah Thanks for sharing!

Easier to go academic to public than public to acedemic

^^True

Could you share the link for Move Online?

When you message people in LinkedIn do you use onsite messages, or do you use the email address in their contact info?

https://rachael-altman.mailchimpsites.com/

https://www.move-online.co.uk/

https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-librarian-linkover-lorene-kennard-oL6vYRM2WCe/

Yay, thanks Juliet!

Thank you so much, this was great to connect with everyone and chat about this.

This was super helpful!

Thank you.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you

Thanks for this helpful session!

Thank you!

Thank you

Yes, I enjoyed learning about non-library library opportunities!

Thank you great resources!

Thanks

Thank you!

This has been fantastic! Thank you SO much, Racheal!! I noticed that we are already connected on LinkedIn.

Thank You

thanks for all the info!

This has been great. I look forward to continuing the conversation through your LinkedIn and the MailChimp.

Good luck to all the job seekers!

Thanks Rachael, this was a great session.

Great info, thank you!

thanks for a great program

This was great - thank you!

Thank you!!

Thank you!

Thank you!!

Thank you!

Thank you! Have a great rest of the day!

Thanks Rachael!

Thanks! Good talk.

Where is the free workbook?

Thank you!!

You are so helpful, thank y ou!

Great, thanks.

@Amy: https://rachael-altman.mailchimpsites.com/

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks Rachel!

Thank You!!

Thanks Beatrice for all the links!

Thank you all for organizing this!

Thank you Rachel and Beatrice

Bye, thanks.

Thank you!

Thank you, Beatrice!