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April CopyTalk COVID-19 - Shared screen with speaker view
Liz Miller
30:51
whoops
Jen L
30:56
I can see the screen but no sound
Jen L
31:12
just got sound
crussell@alawash.org
31:37
http://www.ala.org/advocacy/copyright/copytalk
jmartel1
32:12
got audio via phone
crussell@alawash.org
32:30
That is the link to the archive. I can send an unedited version of the webinar as early as tonight -- it takes a while to actually appear on the website
Freya Anderson
33:10
great Joe!
Kyle Courtney
33:32
If you need to change size in your window - go to the "View Options" at the top and select Zoom Ration --> Fit to Window!
Billie_Peterson
34:33
Please post your questions here during the presentation; I will collect/combine them for the Q&A session at the end of the presentation.
Carmen Redding
34:43
My question is this: Are school teachers able to show movies online--snippets or full movies to assist lesson presentation? If you can't answer this, I'll understand? Does Fair Use cover this or the TEACH Act?
Billie_Peterson
35:44
https://tinyurl.com/v6dvmcb
Lesley
36:43
Questions I have before conducting a webinar: 1.Using images from Google in slides for presentations online 2. Showing videos remotely 3. Purchased items reproduced for online learning
carli
36:45
Here is a direct link to the statement for those who want to take a look: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10baTITJbFRh7D6dHVVvfgiGP2zqaMvm0EHHZYf2cBRk/preview#heading=h.yrwelxtxcfgr
Jen L
37:01
can classroom teachers record themselves reading a book and post it on Google Classroom?
Cheryl A Cuillier
37:48
Thank you Nancy!
Ellen Dubinsky
37:50
Thank you for the Copyright Office Hours!
crussell@alawash.org
38:06
Librarians rock!
Bebe Chang
38:30
@Jen L. Dolly Parton is reading to children https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/31/824638554/dolly-parton-will-read-bedtime-stories-to-kids-online-every-week
Kyle Courtney
39:07
Resources (and Nancy Sims page): https://tinyurl.com/v6dvmcb
Shannon
40:06
The "Reading Aloud" webinar is FABULOUS. So many questions answered re recording storytime and posting online.
Lesley Ellen Harris
40:20
Thanks for compiling the great list of resources
Rachel Becker, Madison College
40:35
Can instructors post a fully scanned short picture book to a locked down LMS for the duration of this semester when this title is key to the instruction and all our local public libraries are closed (preventing students from getting the book)?
Liz
42:45
WHAT ABOUT DOING STORYTIME ONLINE?
crussell@alawash.org
43:35
Liz, the panel will speak to your question after the presentation
Liz
43:58
Ok thank you
Billie_Peterson
44:11
Just to reiterate (so you don't think your're being ignored)), I am collecting your questions for the end of the presentation.
Shannon
44:49
@Liz Watch the "Reading Aloud" webinar from earlier this week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3S-8wZikw Questions answered!
Emma Tourtelot
49:02
My q: Is it ok to recommend the Internet Emergency Library, are they in line with this fair use statement?
klchase
49:56
@Emma: https://withoutbullshit.com/blog/the-internet-archive-is-ripping-off-authors-to-create-its-internet-emergency-library
Lesley
50:05
We have a principal that told her staff that the copyright laws are getting ready to be put aside during this time. Can you please speak to this at the end?
Brian Boling
50:53
Hooray Brandy!!!
Ksmith@santarosa.edu
51:02
Thank you Brandy!!
Paige Mann
51:03
Thank you Brandy.
crussell@alawash.org
51:06
Brandy is great!!
Cynthia Kristof
51:06
Accolades to Brandy!!!!!!
Donna Wrublewski
51:11
Ditto ;)
susabeck
52:47
Are you all aware of any efforts to change copyright law, adapting it to better reflect this virtual environment we find ourselves in? Education institutions may not go backward and may continue to operate more virtually even after this corona virus goes away
ebarrow
53:10
Yes, good to know.
Marie-Renée
53:34
Question for Kyle: Do you know if there is an equivalent to 108 in Canadian copyright law?
klchase
55:05
What about ILL lending of an entire e-book when the chapters are broken up by the vendor. License just says YES to ILL. But in light of current situation...is this beyond 108 and veering into 107?
carli
55:46
Does “private study” allow for class use? Or must the person be an individual researcher (such as for a book or thesis)?
Carmen Redding
56:27
A high school teacher came to me when I was a high school librarian and asked me to copy the complete novel and make 10 copies because she was short that number of novels. I said that this was a copyright infringement. She responded that we had already bought 25 copies so we owned it. Well, I said that wasn't true. The school did buy 10 more copies. Did I do the right thing?
Paige Mann
58:31
How does a library do what Hayden Library did? That is, how do libraries enable Controlled Digital Lending of its own collections?
Lisa Hoover
58:40
Internet archive is being sued for the controlled lending, though: https://publishingperspectives.com/2019/01/copyright-battle-internet-archives-open-library-authors-guild-society-of-authors/. Shouldn't libraries be cautious until this suit is resolved?
Paige Mann
59:16
@Lisa, or perhaps libraries challenge laws that may unnecessarily restrict what we can do under the law.
ebarrow
59:19
Wow! That is a lot of books! How do we fill in the gap?
Lesley Ellen Harris
01:00:03
I see someone asked a question about any specific library provisions in the Canadian Copyright Act. See s. 30.1. You can view these provisions here: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-42/page-12.html#docCont
Paige Mann
01:02:13
If libraries have “acquired” an electronic thesis or dissertation, does the First Sale doctrine apply to these acquisitions?
Marie
01:02:44
@Lesley Ellen Harris - thanks!
klchase
01:03:38
Does first sale apply to licensed e-books for which we do not own a print copy? What if we own a print copy and use a licensed e-book version to distribute an entire book via ILL?
Ksmith@santarosa.edu
01:03:41
I wish first sale more strongly apply to the educational licenses of documentary films.
Joseph R Kraus
01:05:00
Is anyone else just seeing a black screen, or is it just me?
tammy.ravas
01:05:19
I’m still seeing the presentation.
Billie_Peterson
01:05:23
I see Kyle's slides
Donna Wrublewski
01:05:41
Try clicking “View Options” at the top of your Zoom window and click Fit to screen
Donna Wrublewski
01:05:48
Sorry fit to windo
Joseph R Kraus
01:05:50
Ok, just me, thanks. I will watch the recording later.
Billie_Peterson
01:06:29
Many good questions coming in. . . keep them coming!!
Karen Kohn
01:07:44
Are the HathiTrust loans one user per book, or one user per library per book?
Brian Boling
01:08:31
HI Karen! I think they mean one user per library.
Brian Boling
01:08:59
We should find out soon :)
sallierandolph
01:09:53
Who created and runs the National Emergency Library
Leanna Pagano
01:10:03
Internet Archive
Janice Murray
01:10:05
In a K-12 classroom setting- if a school or consortium has 120 copies of a title, could we, hypothetically, digitize that title and loan it out to 120 students at a time?
Brandy Karl
01:10:07
https://www.hathitrust.org/ETAS-Description#access
Brandy Karl
01:10:12
Access to items is 1-1; 1 copy on the member library shelf, 1 individual access to the digital copy; 2 copies, 2 concurrent users of the digital item.
Ksmith@santarosa.edu
01:10:23
Thanks Kyle!!
Kyle Courtney
01:11:13
Thank you!
Donna Wrublewski
01:11:35
Bravo!
Regina Raboin
01:11:44
Fabulous Kyle - thank you!
Ebony Novakowski
01:11:48
ZOMG not to go off topic but that is the best wall paper ever
carli
01:11:51
Brandy, I love your background!
Ashour Benjamin
01:11:56
Thank you Kyle
Ksmith@santarosa.edu
01:12:58
Agreed. Streaming vendors are thrilled.
Brandy Karl
01:13:01
https://psu.libanswers.com/faq/290484
Chris LeBeau
01:13:33
Q: one teacher put his cam in front of the tv while a movie played to show his class. He didn't technically make a copy. OK? Awkward, yes, Legal?
crussell@alawash.org
01:14:06
That's sad.
Ebony Novakowski
01:14:12
Illegal performance not copy unless it is recorded?
crussell@alawash.org
01:14:33
MPAA suggested that educators do this during 1201
tammy.ravas
01:14:48
That is sad.
crussell@alawash.org
01:15:05
There's a clip of this on youtube
tammy.ravas
01:16:15
No, libraries are not throwing copyright out the window. We’re following the law and exercising our rights under it.
Dalia Corkrum
01:16:40
Often we'll put a DVD on reserve for students to view one at a time. Now that's not possible. We've tried to find streaming versions but sometimes the only access is through a consumer-oriented service (Netflix). Is there a Fair Use argument for burning the DVD for restricted (reserve) use?
crussell@alawash.org
01:16:59
People - if you have colleagues that are interested in this webinar, send me an email
Donna Wrublewski
01:17:05
This entire situation highlights the difference between access and ownership. We think we “own” digital things, but we don’t really.
Lesley
01:17:08
Timeline on how long you can keep copyright material in your LMS?
crussell@alawash.org
01:17:09
crussell@alawash.org
crussell@alawash.org
01:17:33
I can provide early access to an unedited copy of the webinar
Ashour Benjamin
01:17:52
Thank you Brandy
Emily Shiller
01:18:53
So if we distribute something to a class through a school (domain) Google Drive/Google Classroom assignment for short term use (for now) that's ok? Is that what Brandy just meant?
Leslie Andersen
01:19:12
If we can only digitize and stream short portions of DVDs, how does a library do something like this: https://olinuris.library.cornell.edu/services/course-reserves/digitization-request
carli
01:19:14
Am I correct that libraries also aren’t taking the risk by linking to it? Because linking is (in most cases) fine?
User
01:19:56
Which publishers are on board with this? Th AAP has condemned it.
Billie_Peterson
01:20:32
For those of you with questions about reading stories out loud, here's a link to the Reading Aloud" webinar from earlier this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x3S-8wZikw
Sarah Hayes
01:20:34
A lot of authors have also spoken out against this.
Emily Colucci
01:20:47
How do I access the National Emergency Library via the Internet Archive?
jssauer
01:21:07
here https://archive.org/details/nationalemergencylibrary
Kyle Courtney
01:21:08
Controlled Digital Lending and the National Emergency Library are different. And have different legal justifications. Authors and publishers have come out against it, yes.
Freya Anderson
01:21:41
It seems like a pretty important factor that they'll take down any books if the copyright holder asks them. How much would that play into it?
ebarrow
01:21:43
I have checked out a book from them. It's not too bad. But it is an access point for many.
Emily Colucci
01:21:48
Thank you!
Kyle Courtney
01:22:11
The NEL has a FAQ: https://blog.archive.org/2020/03/30/internet-archive-responds-why-we-released-the-national-emergency-library/
Laura Quilter
01:22:44
Please note: National Emergency Library also allows authors / publishers to opt out. You can read more http://blog.archive.org/2020/03/24/announcing-a-national-emergency-library-to-provide-digitized-books-to-students-and-the-public/ and : https://blog.archive.org/2020/03/30/internet-archive-responds-why-we-released-the-national-emergency-library/
crussell@alawash.org
01:23:00
If we run out of time and your question is not answered, send me an email and I'll get you a response
klchase
01:23:03
What about ILL lending of entire licensed e-books that are broken up by vendor into chapters (so you have to marry the chapters to create the entire book)? License just says YES to ILL.
crussell@alawash.org
01:23:11
crussell@alawash.org
Kyle Courtney
01:23:25
National Emergency Library also forbids downloads, copying, and anything in the last 5 years.
Kyra Folk-Farber
01:23:43
Carrie it would be great if you could make an unedited version available early. Thanks!
crussell@alawash.org
01:24:05
I can do that! I'll send to CAN
crussell@alawash.org
01:24:48
I was on that webinar!
Kyle Courtney
01:25:01
https://www.edsurge.com/news/2020-03-30-can-teachers-read-books-out-loud-online-actually-yes
Lynne Scheib
01:25:41
hope this program will be available in archived form
crussell@alawash.org
01:25:51
Yes lynne it will
crussell@alawash.org
01:25:54
http://www.ala.org/advocacy/copyright/copytalk
crussell@alawash.org
01:26:05
Takes a day or two
carli
01:27:14
I asked the question on private use. I am wondering if you could copy it 10 times at the request of 10 different students for the same class.
carli
01:27:24
Yes, that was my question - classroom use
crussell@alawash.org
01:27:33
Just to say one more time, I can make an unedited version of this webinar available to anyone - probably have it tonight, send an email
carli
01:28:21
Sorry :(
Susanna Smith
01:28:22
I would like a copy, crussell!
klchase
01:28:27
What about ILL lending of entire licensed e-books that are broken up by vendor into chapters (so you have to marry the chapters to create the entire book)? License just says YES to ILL.
carli
01:28:31
Not one person
carli
01:28:42
10 individual students ask for a single class
Lisa Hoover
01:28:51
Wouldn't the Rule of 5 apply to Carli's question?
Liz
01:29:01
I would like a copy and please send the muellere@hillsboroughcounty.org
Israel Isaac Garcia
01:29:07
If a textbook isn't available to some students but the rest of the students have their textbook at home, can you make say three chapters available online to all without lending to one user at a time, or do you have to make it available only to the students that don't have their textbook at home?
Susanna Smith
01:29:58
send copy to sussmith@highlands.edu Thanks!!
carli
01:30:10
Ok. Thanks!
Freya Anderson
01:31:23
Is there a general move away from CONTU? Does this mean that more requests need to be determined at a higher level?
Christina Hennessey
01:31:32
This was a great session, thank you!
Lesley Ellen Harris
01:31:34
Thanks, great discussions!
jssauer
01:31:35
Excellent!
Ashour Benjamin
01:31:37
Thank you again Brandy and Kyle
Kelly Jo Woodside
01:31:37
Thanks so much!
Amee Odom
01:31:37
Great info! Thanks!
Ksmith@santarosa.edu
01:31:38
Thank you all for helping us do our jobs!!
Donna Wrublewski
01:31:38
Thank you all this was amazing
ahuddle3
01:31:38
Thanks! Very helpful.
jcarter
01:31:39
Please send copy to: jcarter@ccplnet.org
Freya Anderson
01:31:40
Thanks much! You guys rock!
Jennifer G
01:31:41
Thank you!
Susanna Smith
01:31:41
Thank you!
Liz
01:31:42
This was very helpful
Karen Grondin
01:31:42
Thank you, Brandy and Kyle!
jcarter
01:31:43
Thank you!
Ross Tedford Kendall
01:31:43
Thank you!
Paige Mann
01:31:44
Awesome! Thank you everyone. :)
tammy.ravas
01:31:45
Thanks Brandy and Kyle!
Zoom Host
01:31:45
Thank you!
Elizabeth Bennett
01:31:45
thanks so much!!!
Anibal
01:31:45
Super useful! Thanks!
Kyle Courtney
01:31:46
There is a general move away from CONTU!
John Burke
01:31:46
thank you!
Donna Wrublewski
01:31:46
please make this recording available somewhere
Amie Freeman
01:31:47
Thanks!
Emily Colucci
01:31:50
Thank you everyone so much!!
Amy Howard
01:31:51
Thank you!!
Cynthia Kristof
01:31:56
Thank you Brandy and Kyle! I'm a fangirl for sure!
Gretchen Higginbottom - Fresno
01:31:57
Thank you!
Chris LeBeau
01:32:00
Can you post answers to questions we didn't get to?
Polly Thistlethwaite
01:32:02
Really helpful- thanks!
Galloway
01:32:03
Informative! Thank you!
carli
01:32:03
Thanks Kyle and Brandy!
Rachel Becker, Madison College
01:32:05
Thank you!
Kim Nayyer
01:32:06
Thanks; very informative!
lorraine
01:32:07
thank you both - always learn so much
Leanna Pagano
01:32:07
Thank you everyone! This is was immensely helpful <3
Carmen Redding
01:32:11
Thank you so much. This was very informative!
Emily Colucci
01:32:11
Where will this recording be available?
soosanshooshtarian
01:32:12
Thank you
Juanita Stepp
01:32:13
Thank you..and please send copy to jjstepp@iupuc.edu
katherinegreene
01:32:13
Thanks very much!
Emily Finch
01:32:14
Thanks so much! Looking forward to May 7th!
Brandy Karl
01:32:17
yes, move away from contu towards following the actual law
Kyle Courtney
01:32:21
THANKS ALL!
maiadesjardins
01:32:28
Thank You!
crussell@alawash.org
01:32:30
http://www.ala.org/advocacy/copyright/copytalk
Bebe Chang
01:32:31
thanks
Kristine S
01:32:32
thank you
Amy T.
01:32:32
Thank you!
Andy
01:32:33
Thanks!
Donna Wrublewski
01:32:34
Stay safe everyone
jmartel1
01:32:34
thanks Kyle and Brandy.
Chris LeBeau
01:32:36
Thank you!!
nltaboada
01:32:37
Thank you!